It is not a secret that Bethesda’s upcoming sci-fi RPG Starfield will be available only on Xbox and PC. And now Phil Spencer said that the same goes for The Elder Scrolls VI, as Microsoft wants to give players a complex experience in terms of games, content, friend lists, and cloud features.

Spencer explained his point of view about platform exclusives in a new interview with British GQ: “It’s not about punishing any other platform, like I fundamentally believe all of the platforms can continue to grow. But in order to be on Xbox, I want us to be able to bring the full complete package of what we have. And that would be true when I think about Elder Scrolls VI. That would be true when I think about any of our franchises.”

The Xbox head went on to say that TES VI will arrive “some fifteen to seventeen years after Skyrim,” which means around 2026-2028. So the game is probably still in the early development stages.

Phil Spencer also stated that Xbox no longer sees PlayStation as its competitor. Microsoft wants to fight for users’ time and convenience instead of producing only big-budget exclusives. The ultimate goal here is to build the so-called “Netflix for Games.”

The full interview can be found here.

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