Neil Druckmann and Evan Wells have shared their thoughts on crunch in the games industry. Naughty Dog co-presidents said that while there is no one solution for this issue, game studios shouldn’t prohibit passionate devs from working on a project overtime.

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“I have definitely personally worked very hard over the years. I think some of that has helped me get to where I am in my career,” Wells said of his own experience with crunch in an interview with Game Informer.

Wells also said that Naughty Dog has post mortems after finishing each project, trying to analyze production and management decisions to find areas of improvement. The studio also set up working groups to create a better environment and improve working conditions.

Druckmann noted that “everybody has a different definition of what crunch means.” For Naughty Dog, it is a “combination of how many hours you work and how much stress you’re feeling.” However, Druckmann thinks that there is no one solution for this problem that fits every developer.

Naughty Dog also tried to prevent people from working more than 40 hours a week. However, it frustrated some employees. “There are people who really want to put in that extra polish on their own volition, and they would feel handcuffed,” Wells explained.

Druckmann agreed, saying that the studio needs “multiple solutions” to solve the problem and prevent even the most passionate devs from burning out.

On August 30, Jason Schreier commented on the Naughty Dog co-presidents’ position. He criticized the way they equate “work hard” to long hours, saying that “crunch culture values the person who’s at their desk for 60 hours but on Twitter half the time more than the person who works 40 hours at max efficiency.”

Schreier went on to say that the so-called “crunch culture” is a huge problem in the industry, because game companies normalize long hours and expect their employees to crunch.

Writer and Obsidian Entertainment senior narrative designer Carrie Patel also shared her thoughts on the matter. “The thing about ‘passionate’ devs ‘choosing’ to crunch is that they make extra work for other departments, too,” she wrote. “This establishes a martyr mentality that can be toxic to team collaboration and communication.”

Patel cited a “martyr” who decided to put in extra work to add a new quest to a game as an example. Even if this employee manages to implement the feature while working overtime, it will affect the whole team. Other devs will have to write a quest giver, set up a custom combat encounter, and test the new content.

“Now, one person’s ‘passion’ is a whole team’s debt,” Patel explained. These “martyrs” usually don’t think about their colleagues’ time, which breaks down communication within the team and diminishes the overall quality of the game.

According to Patel, developers like this are not passionate, they are simply scared to lose their job in the industry. And studio bosses shouldn’t see this behavior as “passion.” Instead, they should care about the team and “work with production to build an achievable schedule.”

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